Warwick Accounting and Finance
Will an undergrad in accounting and finance from warwick set me up for IB/PE in london. I've heard firms mostly recruit students studying econ/math.
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You’ll be fine. In the UK uni > course (generally), and A&F would be a ‘target’ course anyway
I currently study A&F at Warwick, it definitely places for IB/PE. Economics from Warwick is a bit more respected, but like the other person said, uni>course. Feel free to dm if you have any other questions.
Was going to make a post myself about this, but saw a fair number of A&F students particularly land a lot of great springs at the likes of DE Shaw, Optiver, trading invitationals by Citadel etc. Only (potential) problem I'm not 100% keen on the accountancy part as I have heard generally modules are quite boring / monotonous (feel free to confirm/deny). I would also still like to take some electives in Econ during my degree too, and was wondering if this would be possible to do? On the website it mentions CORE optionals and electives separately in the module section so thought I'd ask what overlaps and generally, what sort of freedom you get to select other modules.
Equally wanted to know if it's the success of the HF society at Warwick leading to a lot of students getting such springs?
Final one but I also had a look on whatdotheyknow.com recently too (which is just an openly available report of all FOIs people send into unis). The offer count seems really odd over the past 2 years for the course. For 2021 there were 1437 offers from 2210 applications (65%) but for 2023 there were only 808 offers from 1718 applications (47%). I know there was a stagger post-COVID so I'm not sure if I'm reading too much into it, but my GCSEs are poor (mainly 5/6s, 2 7s) so I worry I'd get rejected. I'd have 2 preferred subjects (Business/Econ) alongside the Maths at A-Level - so I'm not sure if it makes up for it - but would love to hear your thoughts.
Sorry in advance for the long message
Good luck
Thank you!
Tbh, the econ at uni isn’t so useful in practice anyways. Probably best leveraging the free time you’ll have (some WBS courses are seen as being easier) and focusing on extra stuff e.g. societies, interview prep.
Warwick will get you into the first interview, but it’s by no means a free pass (same as LSE, imperial etc). Recommend you optimise for overall CV/prep rather than just academia, by taking as many ‘practical’ courses as possible.
I wanted to take some as I enjoyed Econ at A-Level, and I wanted to challenge myself with the larger amount of Maths involved at uni. I'm aware it's pretty theoretic, but know it's probably more likely I can take more Econ modules as A&F seems at least fairly relevant compared to something more applicable to real life which I'd still enjoy like Programming or perhaps some Statistics (I'm not sure if this is what you mean by more practical courses).
Do you have any particular pointers for CV / Interview prep? For IB I'm aware of the 400 BIWS questions + Jobtestprep for the psychometric tests, and of course generally prepping your CV bulletpoints to be concise but honestly not sure on much else with the CV. Will try pick up some experience where I can before uni but seems tough
Don’t need to make a decision at this point (and it sounds like you’ll have loads of options open given your current prep plan/attitude) but in reality, IB/PE is not very intellectually challenging - its incredibly commercial in nature. The difficulty comes from the tight deadlines, coordination and high degree of responsibility - whilst the technicals seem difficult at first, that’s only because they’re a new concept.
If you are interested in a career with more quantitative/intellectual rigour whilst not pure maths/stats, might be worth considering something like becoming an actuary. Very nice pay potential and WLB after qualification, although my friends still find it a bit dry at times. Other technical roles that come to mind are 1) hedge fund seat (live fast eat ass / stressful, high risk/reward), albeit some are more less quant-focused or still transaction-oriented, 2) restructuring (nerds arguing for 80h per week about highly specific legal clauses), and research (bank or elsewhere, mix of data analysis and commercial application)
In terms of prep post-M&I, check out multiple expansion (free website) to get a more detailed understanding around key concepts and how they translate to financial modelling. Can PM if you want to discuss anything in particular.
Background: Undergrad in econ (non-target), WBS masters (but few good friends did undergrad there) and ~5Y experience in private credit/advisory/bank lending post graduation
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