Masters in Europe... tips?????
I'm 25, graduated in business management in Brazil, had worked in a pension fund for 2 years, but I'm not certificate. I'm kind lost because after 1 year in Ireland I was trying to get a job as equity research analyst but the recruiters did not appreciate my CV ( I did some courses in Brazilian Stock Exchange before leave Brazil). Lads, Give me some tips, about certificate, Masters course and witch university could be a good choice for me. Thanks
If you have 2 years and over work experience, you will not be eligible to apply to some Pre-experience MSc courses although most universities might still let you.
As for the good choice, it comes down to your preference of location, course structure, career opportunities etc. In any case, you should look at target, semi-targets (in UK it isn't too important). There are some brilliant ones in the continental europe too. To name a few, LSE, Imperial, Warwick, HEC Paris, St. Gallen, ESSEC, IE spain, EDHEC, Bocconi, SSE etc. They're all top tier and have great career prospectus.
Good luck with studies!
Don't forget about Oxbridge. Oxford has an MFE program and Cambridge MPhil Finance, MPhil RE Finance and MPhil Finance & Economics.
Yea just be sure to take your courses close to wherever you want to find a job afterwards as recruiting is very regional. I just recently graduated from a MSF in Europe and eventually made my way back to the States to find work. Remember that taxes are higher and starting salaries are lower in the EU as compared with the US. Also I felt a bit discriminated against during on-campus recruiting as compared with my native classmates, so be prepared for a bit of an up-hill climb.
Also, I too was interested in equity-research and had a great first found interview with a regional bank but didnt move on because I didnt speak the local language. Instead of ER they moved me on to the second rounds for a sales analyst position and yea that didnt work out. So just be mindful of these things, research WSO and other sources very well (I wish I had done better there), and send me a personal message if you need anything specific.
cheers
Thanks 4 help i couldn't send you a personal message because I new here .... so I really know that here in europe is kind difficult to try a job against a home-citizen... and without any certificate that they really love ( CFA )... I was thinking in a MBA to put me back to the game, or a short course.... what do you mean with local language???
What master programs in Europe are there that do not take you if you are too experienced? What is too experienced? Is 2 years FT work too much for schools that are listed above? I'd say you are pretty much stuck since for post-experience masters programs 2 years is just enough to be considered, but on average candidates have 6 yrs of full-time experience by then.
Well I studied in a Dutch speaking area (I speak no Dutch, classes were in English), and the bank I interviewed with was based in this same area. Most of their business was done in English, but for equity research in specific they wanted native Dutch speakers to better connect with the management of the companies they were covering.
I'm not trying to warn you off of that idea, just that you should know what you are getting into. Many of my fellow international classmates found good jobs in corporate finance within the region, and a few local kids got jobs at some of the large banks in London.
My advice would be to reach out to any Brazilian networking groups you can find based in the EU banking centres and ask how others' experience was in finding work abroad. Also, I've passed the 1st level of the CFA program and no one seemed to care, so before you invest your time in that I would ask lots of questions and network all that you can.
I was thinking that CFA could jump up my career... could be MBA better then a MASTER for me?? btw, how was your experience when you was studying.... was easy to study and work... or did you choose for a full time course??? ..I still thinking which university I will choose, cause all of this ones in this post are REALLY expensive for me....
If you have >2 years working experience then a MBA might be more relevant for you, unless you can do one of the post-experience MSF courses at LBS or similar. But as you stated yes they are all quite expensive. If you look at the schools in continental Europe they are usually cheaper than in the UK (and your expenses are in Euro rather than Pound which is a bonus) but your access to recruiting opportunities in the largest banking centre in the EU are diminished. As in most cases, you get what you pay for with these schools.
A CFA can definitely help but it is a huge time investment, so its probably a choice between business school or the CFA for you. Yes my course was full time and a normal week consisted of about 70 hours of school work, so working part-time is almost impossible (there are work restrictions on a student visa also). I cant give you an outright answer of what you should do mate but you are on the right track, so just keep asking the right questions and researching and you will be good.
What happened with u when you came back to USA??? got a good job without problem??? so I am a couple of months to decide witch university I will get into... as oxford, LBS, are too much expensive, and I am not a EU citizen to try a loan, so I focus on university as LSBF and London South Bank University.... I know that compare to oxford they will be a piece of shit, but do u think that they could be a good choice??
Which pre-experience master programs do not take you if you have "too much" work experience?
Hi mate,
I'm doing a masters at lse currently, so I can give you some insight on the university if you have any questions.
Is it Msc finance you're looking to do?
As far as I know, with two years experience you should be fine. They seem to like a bit of diversity in their cohorts.
It's a good course, and they have some excellent lecturers. However it is quite a "sink or swim" type institution.
I would strongly suggest not even considering lsbf or south bank. Google lsbf, for more information on it, but I would really really look elsewhere.
South bank is ok, but they've had the visa issues recently, and is stay away from that as a foreign student. At least for a while.
Queen Marys, cass, imperial are decent. Even Henley's icma center has s good reputation. I think all of these options, except imperial, are cheaper than lse.
Lbs is a great option as well, but equally expensive.
Good luck
Thanks for the insight.
I am interested in the MSc Finance as well as MSc Finance and Private Equity. There are not major differences between these two courses right? Are there any reasons why one would choose to study one over the another?
What kind of assessment is done for master programs at LSE? What are the weightings between GPA, GMAT, CV, etc? Any thresholds?
Well I'm not studying finance, so I can only really give you info on the uni in general really.
Personally, I've been very happy with the standard of teaching and he course content. I, myself, have a number of years of work experience. It's been challenging returning to academia, but I've thoroughly enjoyed it.
I think you should be able to find the information (gmat etc) on the relevant courses web page (it wouldn't let me post the link, but you can find it under entry requirements if you google the courses)
Though I think you may need to hurry if you want 2013/2014 intake, I think the deadline nay even have passed.
If you think I can help more, let me know.
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