Frat Stars Statistically Do Better On The Job Than Hardo Nerds
One pattern I've noticed recently is that although the finance club 4.0 BIWS memorizing hardos with 3 internships might have a better resume going into their SA, the frat stars who barely skates by with a 3.5 by taking easy electives do way better on the job (gets staffed on the sexiest deals, gets the most return offers, gets top bucket, places in PE MFs in the first 48 hours of on-cycle, etc). Just goes to show how important social skills is for this industry and if you're a 5'9 lanky indian dude your 4.0 GPA isn't going to help you edge out the 6'3 varsity lax frat star from UVA.
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lol i can't think of what type of person would actually post this... because there's no way you're this "varsity star" posting about themselves. obviously being social will win you more long term because you're able to nurture client relationships and workplace dynamics better than a "nerd". not rocket science
Looking at greek life (especially from my frat) kids from my alma mater on LinkedIn versus GDIs and I can see a huge difference in their career trajectories (nerds/hardos exiting to CorpDev, stuck on sell-side, gets placed in groups with no deal flow/bad exits, don't get return offers and downgrade to regional boutiques/MM shops, while frat stars exit to HF/PE MF, get into HSW, gets placed into top groups)
Dude you sound like a total squid lmao
spot on, its almost like most sell-side and buy-side jobs are built on having charisma in the long term.
Sell-side jobs are built on charisma, buyside job nobody gives a fuck if you’re printing money at least on the public side.
Just a bunch of frat losers trying to make themselves feel better because they peaked in high school and their nerdy VP is fucking them.
lmao good point, ig buyside it doesn't really matter since its the sellsides job to kiss up to you anyway
Lmaooo thank you for this
pov: OP’s secret gay boyfriend plays lax at uva
Thought this dude was serious and then saw the username LMAO
As much as I hate to break it to you, the Indian 4.0 will absolutely destroy the white "frat star" if he has moderate social skills and is in a bunch of clubs especially since he's probably at a better school. IB is not all glamor these days as it used to be. Most kids they take are very nerdy and hardo grinders who have more sociability than their STEM counterparts. There will be a few spots reserved for those athletes and many of them are cracked. Even if they do make it to IB, they will get outcompeted by the sweaty Chinese/Indian. I have seen it way too many times in friends from college/high school. The "cool" factor is mega cope
Sir, do you know what 'statistically' means?
I think there is a false distinction of combining (Hardo + Nerd) vs. Frat Star.
It isn't necessarily all that binary.
I'm many cases, a Frat Star Finance Bro Chad, who is a bit of closet nerd (and thus ended up at a target school), who developed a hardo personality in his career, will tend to progress more; combining, rather than separating, the criteria presented.
I think it's easy to forget that merely getting accepted to a target school (e.g. H/Y/P/W) requires at least some level of intelligence, beyond the norm of society (which tends to be moronic, in many cases). Just getting into a target school would tend to suggest somewhat of a "nerdy" element, which includes the target school frat boy Chad.
Meaning, by default, there is often a baseline level of "nerdy" intelligence ("nerdy" by standards of general society) that exists within finance, considering the academic background that tends to be common -- even someone we might mock for whatever reason, still likely had ~4.0 from H/Y/P/W, is my point.
The question instead becomes whether it is a socially awkward style of nerdy, or the closet nerd who presents himself as frat star Chad type.
In either case, if they adopt the "hardo" approach, they tend to progress more.
If you look at the seniors (e.g. MDs) at each bank, they tend to be a mix -- of both Frat Star/Nerdy + Hardo -- as that tends to be what facilitated that career progress.
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