Given how much of a black box the PE recruiting cycle is, I thought it would be nice to have one thread where users can post regarding updates to the 2021 on-cycle process. For example, if folks could give updates about recent firm events they’ve been to, I know that everybody would appreciate the information.
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Waiting for all this to kick off.
What does the process usually look like? Is it a Thursday/Friday? Does the whole process span multiple days?
advent doing breakfast on wednesday in the menlo park area for their new tech fund
Are those actually selective? Or is it a mass blast?
My sense is if you're at all qualified you'll get the invite. Pretty much a mass blast based on talking with peers
there were about 6 people there so idk, i guess? Probably also cause there's not many firms out in Menlo
Some events are happening this week. Pace is picking up
Pace is really picking up seems to be all squished this upcoming week. Any thoughts on being able to study this week and be ready or should one take themselves off on cycle?
Which firms have you heard holding events? I’m aware of TSSP and EPC
Few megafunds, some upper middle market funds and by events I meant coffee chats as well. TPG/Bx/Warburg among mfs i've heard of and there are plenty more that send around invites surprisingly. Large hedge funds slowly kicking off as well
Have also heard stuff from ECP and Anchorage Capital for informal events. Sounding more and more like a late Sept./very early Oct. kickoff this year.
ECP? I heard Anchorage will have something next week but didnt receive an invite. Did you?
All well-known buyout / growth in SF that participate in on-cycle have ramped hard this week with coffee chats / informals.
Be ready to go as early as this weekend. Not a guarantee it'll happen but you never know. I've heard from multiple friends and sources that most of the MFs are ready... It'll likely kick off again with a SF-based fund (GG, Thoma Bravo) coming out to NYC on a whim to interview kids, then everyone will go. That's how it happened the past few years. Good luck to those of you about to go through this shit show
This was truly prophetic given (from what I've heard) Thoma started the process Thursday night late while in NYC.
Firms are still planning events for next week, but I guess all it takes is one firm to go; everyone else will have to follow
Most likely end of september
It’s today guys lol. Good luck...
Guy above has got to be trolling. HHs are having "intro" events this weekend
Why would I troll about this at 2 AM. A friend of mine got an offer from a firm and that same firm is having interviews tomorrow. Name is good enough that megafunds will follow. Believe me if you want. Idc.
Such a troll
TA Associates
Yep, good luck lol.
Any updates on interviews tomorrow?
Some serious advice -- if it's a surprise to you that on-cycle is kicking off, don't go to interviews, don't burn any bridges with head hunters, and don't freak out.
The people who will land jobs in the next couple of days are not surprised. They have multiple touchpoints with the firms launching through coffee chats and cocktail hours, they've been prepping all summer, already met with HHs and are in the absolute best groups on WS. They're also probably not on WSO right now. If this isn't you, that's fine. It wasn't me.
There will be plenty of opportunities to move to the buyside later this year and throughout your careers. You don't need to feel anxiety about locking in an offer for two years from now, three weeks into your first job out of college just because roughly 100 kids will over the next few days.
-- Sincerely,
A second year analyst who watched this circus play out last year, pulled his hair out and was offered interviews with TPG and Apollo 6+ months later... because funds will underhire... because there's risk involved in hiring exclusively applicants who don't yet know how to do the job they're being hired to do.. even if they have otherwise spotless resumes..
Wait so...is it actually launching or not? Kinda doubt it...
Yes, it's launching.
Pulling out of oncycle. any tips on how to maintain those bridges so I get interviews and offers at megafunds like you did? When did you start prepping and hitting up headhunters recruiting as a 2nd yr? I am assuming you're at a MF? How did you structure your response to why you didn't go your first year?
Following this. I have no interest in doing this madness 3 weeks onto the desk. If I recruit as a 2nd year, could I negotiate to start after the 2nd year, or do I have to wait until the end of the 3rd year?
Soon we'll see on-cycle happening during training...
actually, don’t think TA is having interviews? Just really official events(?)
...
Heard TA started interviews yesterday.
FYI - TA has been running a process for an immediate 2019 / 2020 start. This could be what you're hearing about, or they're kicking off since their interviewers are ramped up anyways.
Same has happened with HGGC interviewing but for a 2020 start. Seems like maybe wires were crossed..
Yeah, I don't think it's happening today.
False alarm
KKR Infra & Energy kicked off interviews
False - they are coffee chats.
Y'all need to chill the F out
Honestly, even if no firms actually kicked off, just the fact that there's so many rumors circulating, the process will start sooner or later
TA Associates is doing “coffee chats” for 4 hours where you meet the partners. That’s not a coffee chat anymore. They just don’t want to be the ones who kick it off but they might as well be at this point.
Curious to know if any first years were invited. May be that firms are running different “on-cycle” processes for first and second years (ie 2021 start for the former and 2020 start for the latter)?
Yes first years were invited, know of people in my group who got the invite
There are also people (1st years) who are going BACK today for more “coffee chats.”
I know this process gets crazier every year and things change year to year but GOING TO THE FIRM's OFFICE and sitting there for A FEW COFFEE CHATS sounds like an interview to me...
Traditionally, most coffee chats and other 1-1 meetings are not at the firm office - which I believe is to **ENSURE **that no one think it's an interview
As soon as offers go out, this thing will kick off.
If it’s really solely TA associates I don’t think that would push things over the edge. Top notch candidates who prefer buyout over growth won’t take a TA offer at this stage.
Agree with you, however, that same top notch candidate has probably spoken to many other firms
They'll just take their TA offer and leverage that at a buyout firm --> process kicks off, same thing
Has anyone received formal interview invitations?
A few upper MM names have interview requests out (for interviews tonight) and some other upper MM names will be sending them out tomorrow.
Separately - have heard a few larger names will not go immediately (I think a few publicly have stated this or at least their HR has talked to our HR about this).
Interestingly TA HR has been denying that any recruiting was going on during the day today (to our HR team) so unclear if they're internallytalking to deal teams or how close they are to any process which is going on there.
Thoma Bravo just started and everyone else is kicking off now.
Can confirm this
I was right this whole time lmao. It’s in full swing now. Good luck everyone.
BC Partners, Thoma Bravo, Apollo have started
Apollo now too
+New Mountain.
Can confirm New Mountain and Lindsay Goldberg kicked off
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How will firms even ask about deal experience?? Most people only hit the desk a month ago (some even less). There’s no way anyone has done anything significant on a deal or talk much about it...
Who else? Everyone at this point?
People in my office in SF are having interviews at Warburg Pincus tonight, AKKR and Marlin tomorrow and this weekend.
My former firm had interviews tonight. A bunch of people I've met at b-school with PE background say their firms are launching tomorrow and over the weekend.
Any indication on Houston/Chicago firms? MDP/BDT/GTCR/Vista?
Can confirm BDT launched tonight
Source?
XXX
Do invites normally come out in waves, or is it safe to say that if you didn't get anything tonight you're SOL?
Also curious about this.
Anyone? :D
Can you lever interview invites? Like if you get an invite somewhere is it acceptable to email other headhunters to meet with some of their clients?
Any word from Blackstone?
Yup
Any news in NY on Berkshire or Advent or TPG?
Berkshire went
Do you know if Berkshire extended offers?
Can confirm Berkshire has extended offers
Believe Advent is holding off for now
Correct. Advent is holding off for now
How do I know if I'm ready for on cycle or still in the "too shitty and going to burn bridges" phase of prep?
If you’re asking, then you may be in the latter group
If you are asking this question at this point, chances are, you are not ready. Sorry to break it to you.
can u think of any other ways to know
can u think of any other ways to know
If you're a first year analyst and are unsure if you're prepared enough than there's not much upside to going through the on-cycle process this time around. Being able to leave IB after two years instead of three will be meaningless in the long run of your career. Just start prepping and introduce yourself to headhunters after all this dies down.
Good luck everyone
Given that on-cycle was really early this year and candidates have barely hit the desk for about a month or less, does this mean that potentially more spots will be open during the off-cycle process? I've heard some of the bigger funds were still filling 2020 spots as of a month or two ago.
Yes this is what’s happening.
Even more reason to sit this one out if youre not fully prepared
Can also confirm - I've heard this as well from an associate at a MF.
Did anyone get a call from Blackstone this morning?
Anyone hear from Carlyle?
interviews are out
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Can anyone confirm which funds have started giving out offers / are full?
Aaaaand that was too little too late
+Bain
Did they extend offers already?
I am working at the director level in growth capital in Hong Kong, and am looking to move back to SF. Do you guys know of any headhunters that can help connect one with the local PE opportunities? I wish I was in SF /NYC more regularly to be able to network in. But given that this is not feasible, I'm keen to get your advice. TIA
Anyone heard from Genstar or H&F in NY?
Can confirm H&F kicked off
Can confirm H&F gave out offers
Also interested if anyone has heard from Genstar
Has Apax given offers out to anyone?
Bump. Apax open 2021?
Do we tell headhunters we want off cycle opportunities for megafunds or just sit out until 2020 on cycle for summer 2021 start dates?
Assuming you're a first year analyst and are not interested in on-cycle 2021 I'd recommend just laying low till this craziness dies down. Spend your time preparing for headhunter introductions and then reach out to them once this process is over. They'll have much more time for you. At that point you can tell them you're interested in off-cycle opportunities and/or participating in next year's 2022 on-cycle process.
how long does the on-cycle process usually last? And when does "off-cycle" officially start generally?
Thanks for the advice. How do you best position yourself for HH intros? Would you recommend reaching out the HHs or talk to analysts who has received offers to get a warm intro? Also, I've heard that HHs expect analyst to know/be specific of what kind of opportunities you're looking for (investment strategy, fund size, industry, etc.) Based on your experience, how specific does that need to get?
Is Apollo done? Have offers been given out?
Unsure if the process is complete. But offers were given out on Thursday.
Has anyone heard about Blackstone or CVC?
So looks like the process is starting roughly a month earlier than last year. If next year follows this trend than the process will take place in IB analysts first week on the job. Maybe that will finally be the breaking point.
One week versus a month or two on the job is roughly the same level of experience. I can see it be a month earlier next year. Regardless, off-cycle looks promising this year like last year.
Anyone hear which groups are placing where?
At this point, may be more helpful to compile a list of firms that have not gone yet. Anyone know about LGP?
Heard LGP had interviews. Anyone know if they are done?
LGP gave out offers. Not sure if they’re done.
Anyone have insight on Chicago funds specifically?
Any places planning to kick off for on-cycle but haven't done so yet?
What “deal experience” is everyone even talking about? The model outputs they twice pasted in the slides during their SA stint?
How do you get invited? Through networking or reach out to HHs?
For people in the Netherlands: the FSA (financial study association) organizes a yearly event for PE named PE cycle. The event takes place in Amsterdam. I've never been there since this year is my final year of my bachelor, but I believe that it is a good event since there are a handful of companies present. Something similar is most likely organized in Rotterdam by the financial student association in Rotterdam (idk what the name is).
Edit: Why is there monkey shit thrown? Not everyone is from the US of the UK
thx
Updates on Apax giving offers?
What firms have started? Which are done and which still have openings? Thanks!!!
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